Pictures are out there. But when duality opens up for players new videos should be uploaded before the weekend is out.

If I'm not mistaken, this puts the new Caldari Missile destroyer in the 200 - 210 DPS at 60+ km range

Does this not negate everything you have already said about HML's, range and damage projection considering this is following the current trends and not the new path you guys were trying to lay down?

Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and fix this for you right now. Some of the numbers are a bit general (like align time I didn't even touch) but these ships would be slower than attack line destroyers.

Behold, the combat destroyer line!

• AMARR DESTROYER:

Ship bonuses:
+10% to drone damage and hitpoint per level
+5% to armour resistances per level
Role bonus:
+50% bonus to energy neutraliser and nosferatu range
Slot layout: 4 H, 3 M, 5 L, 2 turrets, 2 launchers
Fittings: 50 PWG, 150 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 750 / 1100 / 950
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 600 / 370s / 1.62s
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 215 / 2.70 / 1750000 / 4.71s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 39km / 525 / 6
Sensor strength: 10 radar
Signature radius: 66
Cargo capacity: 300



• CALDARI DESTROYER:

Ship bonuses:
+5% to rocket and light missile kinetic damage per level
+5% to shield resistance bonus per level
Role bonus:
+25% to rocket and light missile signature radius bonus
Slot layout:6 H, 5 M, 2 L, 6 launchers
Fittings: 45 PWG, 220 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1150 / 750 / 750
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 500 / 320s / 1.56s
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 220 / 2.5 / 1900000 / 4.89s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 45km / 475 / 7
Sensor strength: 12 gravimetric
Signature radius: 69
Cargo capacity: 450



• GALLENTE DESTROYER:
(fully bonused medium drones on this thing is not a good idea, hence the tracking bonus instead)

Ship bonuses:
+10% to drone tracking speed and HP per level
+10% to armour repair amount per level
Role bonus:
+25% drone mwd speed
Slot layout: 5 H, 3 M, 4 L, 4 turrets
Fittings: 55 PWG, 150 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 800 / 1050 / 1000
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 550 / 350s / 1.57s
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 230 / 2.45 / 1800000 / 4.46s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50/ 50
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 42km / 500 / 7
Sensor strength: 11 magnetometric
Signature radius: 72
Cargo capacity: 350



• MINMATAR DESTROYER:

Ship bonuses:
+5% to rocket and light missile damage per level
+ 7.5% to shield boost amount per level
Role bonus:
+50% to rocket and light missile explosion velocity
Slot layout:5 H, 4 M, 3 L, 5 launchers
Fittings: 48 PWG, 220 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1050 / 850 / 800
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 450 / 290s / 1.55s
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 240 / 2.89 / 1600000 / 4.64s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 5 / 5
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 36km / 550 / 6
Sensor strength: 9 ladar
Signature radius: 60
Cargo capacity: 400

how is 35m3 helpful? mediums against frigs are a waste of time they wont track them why odd numbers doesn't make sense just improve the drone hp/dmg bonus instead do it across the board would be useful

The Minnie destroyer seems to have maybe 5pg to few for a good new pilot rocket ship, is it intentional that the fittings are so tight that it really requires veteran skills?

Hmm I seem to have figured it out, forgot about aux power cores, seems to make it work for low skills, but yes a medium shield extender

Yeep. You're right. Maybe, light missile may need or should have a range reduction. I had a look @ unbonused light missile launchers compared to the other small long range turrets. all t2 with t2 long range ammo on z turrets.

Rails have z longest range @ 50k and light missiles are @ 40k. The other 2 are @ 27k. Maybe light missile should be reduced to around 35k. I mean I do plan on leading fleets that will abuse z **** out of these changes and in solo. A lot of dudes I know are foaming @ z mouth over z Caracal and these new missile destroyers.

From what I can see. There are no big protest because alot of dudes don't understand what these changes will mean. CCP may notice it or they may not. Who cares really v0v

However, Caldari will have one of z strongest if not z strongest destroyer and tech 1 cruiser (Caracal). Maybe!